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They've been banging the anti-SF drum hard in recent weeks. Are they overplaying that card, and possibly pushing people the other direction?
Sinn Féin's tax proposals?
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because we elect politicians espousing populist policies - who is against lower taxes?And populist and hypocritical policies are exactly what we tend to implement
Overplaying their hand? With their fan-girl Una Mullally writing her puff-pieces for them most weeks? Are you serious?
Other journalists are pointing out facts. Una is offering half-baked opinions and conjecture that wouldn't make it past a Transition Year debating society. While she gets to treat us to her 'insights' the Irish Times, the traditional paper of the Smoked-Salmon Socialist, could hardly be accused of not giving oxygen to populist pseudo-socialist drivel.
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You're not seeing any trend here then?
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Kathy Sheridan: Will the real Sinn Féin please stand up?
Party members cannot continue to deny legitimacy of the State SF is expected to govern
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Sinn Féin climate policy remains hazy as debate on costs heats up
Party majors on climate justice and just transition to exclusion of almost everything else
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Newton Emerson: Sinn Féin rides two horses in chase of hobgoblins
Party's agenda North and South leaves nothing to chance – something for everyone
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At some point, Sinn Féin will need to confront its violent past and grapple with 'sorry'
Party has mastered the non-apology but will need to confront its past
Yep. Mullally is the blithering idiot who finally convinced me (after being a daily reader for almost 50 years) not to renew my online sub to the Fintan O'Toole Daily.
You're not seeing any trend here then?
Kathy Sheridan: Will the real Sinn Féin please stand up?
Party members cannot continue to deny legitimacy of the State SF is expected to governwww.irishtimes.com
Sinn Féin climate policy remains hazy as debate on costs heats up
Party majors on climate justice and just transition to exclusion of almost everything else
Newton Emerson: Sinn Féin rides two horses in chase of hobgoblins
Party's agenda North and South leaves nothing to chance – something for everyone
At some point, Sinn Féin will need to confront its violent past and grapple with 'sorry'
Party has mastered the non-apology but will need to confront its past
You raise a good point; maybe Mullally's editor should invite her to reply to the legitimate questions raised in those articles.
Excellent point!
Yes, I see people making factual points about facts.You're not seeing any trend here then?
Kathy Sheridan: Will the real Sinn Féin please stand up?
Party members cannot continue to deny legitimacy of the State SF is expected to govern
Sinn Féin climate policy remains hazy as debate on costs heats up
Party majors on climate justice and just transition to exclusion of almost everything else
Newton Emerson: Sinn Féin rides two horses in chase of hobgoblins
Party's agenda North and South leaves nothing to chance – something for everyone
At some point, Sinn Féin will need to confront its violent past and grapple with 'sorry'
Party has mastered the non-apology but will need to confront its past
Una issues press statements on behalf of her party.
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They seem to be mostly opinion pieces, rather than factual. I hadn't read most of them, or Mullally's stuff tbh. As others noted, the Irish Times has lost a lot of trust in recent years.
But it seemed like a bit of a trend there, working hard to rile up middle class voters or scare them about SF. I'm not sure that it will have the intended effect.
I doubt than anything will at this point. It's always difficult to persuade those who really don't want to be persuaded. Their minds are made up and they're going to buy those magic beans, come hell or high water.
AN excellent piece in today's Irish Times outlining the hypocrisy of the Shinners policies which actually pander to the rich and hurt middle income working people.
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sinn fein will do what Bertie and Charlie did run the country into judge debt and and line their pockets then go out of government and leave Finn Geal to clean up the mess
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And find another smaller party to take all the flak - maybe the SDs next time around?
Charlie was a crook but he didn’t begged the country the way Bertie did and FG under Fitzgerald were a disaster economically.
The Child Killers are like a populist 1970’s FF.
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I’ve never voted SF and most likely never will. In reading the posts above, I think it would be worth asking - has any party said that they won’t fix housing? I’d hazard a guess that the real answer is no.
We all know in our heart of hearts that housing has been a serious issue in Ireland since the founding of the state. Governments are reticent about building social housing because it’s hugely capital intensive, takes years to bear fruit and then of course has significant ongoing costs for maintenance that the tenant doesn’t pay.
What I find fascinating is that the number 1 issue in the last general election was health and there’s been precious little progress there (Sláintecare continues to be more theatre rather than implementable policy). SF have very deftly played the younglings and convinced them of the age old Irish fallacy that there’s ‘a house for everyone in the audience’. The journos who let’s face it are usually young and poorly paid are keeping the focus on issue number 2 from the last general election and will continue to do so until they get their own homes.
I think we need to come to terms with the fact that all our largest political parties are derived from paramilitaries (SF/FF/FG) and none of them are whiter than white. All the parties are populist in their approaches, so it’s probably not fair to just call out SF for it. I can’t stand the idea that we’ll all be called upon to pay more taxes to fund a leaking ship that serves the needs of none of it’s citizens particularly well.
We all know in our heart of hearts that housing has been a serious issue in Ireland since the founding of the state. Governments are reticent about building social housing because it’s hugely capital intensive, takes years to bear fruit and then of course has significant ongoing costs for maintenance that the tenant doesn’t pay.
What I find fascinating is that the number 1 issue in the last general election was health and there’s been precious little progress there (Sláintecare continues to be more theatre rather than implementable policy). SF have very deftly played the younglings and convinced them of the age old Irish fallacy that there’s ‘a house for everyone in the audience’. The journos who let’s face it are usually young and poorly paid are keeping the focus on issue number 2 from the last general election and will continue to do so until they get their own homes.
I think we need to come to terms with the fact that all our largest political parties are derived from paramilitaries (SF/FF/FG) and none of them are whiter than white. All the parties are populist in their approaches, so it’s probably not fair to just call out SF for it. I can’t stand the idea that we’ll all be called upon to pay more taxes to fund a leaking ship that serves the needs of none of it’s citizens particularly well.
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Enough has been said and it's way off into Letting Off Steam territory.
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