Help in taxation for rental income

Discussion in 'Property investment and tenants' rights' started by bibiphoque, Jul 31, 2012.

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  1. mandelbrot

    mandelbrot Former user

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    Ah I love it, your friend has you flapping around while they remain blissfully ignorant of their own responsibilities! Seen it so many times...!

    First things first, is the net rental income (rent receivable minus allowable interest and expenses) greater than €3,174 in 2011?

    If no, then your friend doesn't need to register for income tax self-assessment or for ROS, bt just needs to complete a Form 12 for 2011, and he'll get a balancing statement in due course telling how much, if anything, he owes.

    If yes, then your friend is possibly goosed, as it could take weeks to get registered for income tax via TR1 and then register for ROS, given that it's now the busiest time of year. But anyway the process would be:

    1. Complete a form TR1 (to notify the tax office that he needs to be registered as a self assessed taxpayer).
    2. Once he has his registration for income tax confirmed, he then can register for ROS to file his return online and pay his tax by DD mandate / Laser.
    3. If he can get 1 & 2 above sorted before 15 November, he can just scrape the extended deadline for filing and paying online.
     
  2. Delboy

    Delboy Frequent Poster

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    As I work in finance, I was expected to know all this and thats how I got roped in!
    No, rental income was small in 2011...house just rented for a few months (rented for all of 2012)
    So 2011 net rental income (rent receivable minus allowable interest and expenses) = 1,600 or so
    In 2012 that figure is going to be just under 5k

    So just a form 12 is needed for now. Does the form 12 have a deadline of today or can that go in at any stage this year?
    And then register in time with ROS for the Oct deadline for next year (tax will then be due for 2012 and preliminary tax for 2013)

    Thanks for the help. Much appreciated as I spent hours reading various threads here, and trying to decipher the Revenue forms....but they're not the clearest
     
  3. mandelbrot

    mandelbrot Former user

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    A form 12 only gives rise to a P21 balancing statement, I've never seen interest or penalties on one, so I wouldn't be panicking about getting it filed today.
     
  4. Delboy

    Delboy Frequent Poster

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    thanks Mandelbrot for your time
     
  5. bibiphoque

    bibiphoque Frequent Poster

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    I really created a big thread here! Anyway, I do have a follow up question about your example, or more a clarification. In your example, you say "Amount due for income tax b - a = 3300". Does that mean that this is the amount taxable, i.e. if we use 52% (41% income tax, 7% PRSI and 4% USC) then I owe €1716?
     
  6. elcato

    elcato Moderator

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    Yes, that is my take on it and is what I do for my return except I think PRSI is 4% and USC is 7%.
    Agreed. Thread is now closed so that specific questions are seperated out.
     
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