Did you ever drive unacompanied on a provisional? If so you havnt a leg to stand on. Law was fine to break while it suited you but now your qualified you couldnt give a toss about others.
Posters seem to be complaining because they're not allowed to break the law any more! This country is crazy!
another high horseThis means he has been deemed unqualified to drive!!!!! Where is the argument??? He's proven to a tester "several times" that he is unfit to drive. Geez people....
Did you ever drive unaccompanied before you got your full licence?
He has failed it SEVERAL TIMES, you are just strengthening the arguement that learner drivers should not be on the road without a fully licenced driver. If someone fails several times he is obviously doing something wrong and a danger to himself and other road users, you say he likes to see his family, what if he was to kill himself or others because he is a danger on the road?? Anyone who gets driving lessons from a good instructor WILL pass the driving test, and if they fail they do not belong on the road, simple as. Driving laws are there for the safety of all and must be obeyed by all, not just obey them if they are convenient.
Absolutly never. I did my driving in the UK as a youngster and you dont' break the law regarding this. And less of the high horse Slaphead please. If people fail their test several times why on earth should they be allowed drive alone for crying out loud.
I give up.
Question applies to ppl who learned in Ireland. Anyone who has should show a bit of compassion to ppl who are in difficulties because of this.
I know ppl who passed first time who cant drive, and i mean wouldnt dream of looking over their shoulder when changing lane. Passing the test seems to be a chance things some times.
This means he has been deemed unqualified to drive!!!!! Where is the argument??? He's proven to a tester "several times" that he is unfit to drive. Geez people....
I've given up on this debate now too! This is a new area now - the compotence of testers.
Its relevant, should ppl be grounded at home because perhaps a tester has an off day and vice versa? Some people seem to think that a driving licence means or guarantees that your a good or safe driver, far from it.
One good thing with this law is that accidents wont automatically get blambed on learners any more.
Then we get into the question of how practical is the test...
I park my car every day , not on the test.... it's been many years since I passed my test and I haven't reversed around a corner since the day of the test...
You've got to have some sort of testing scheme though. If you don't have people testing, what do you recommend?
The reversing around the corner - is not solely for the purpose of ascertaining your ability to reverse around a corner. It is to evaluate your overall control of the vehicle in challenging circumstances! For exampl - they can't simulate an accident and although this also doesn't simulate an accident it does measure your control and ability.
Did you ever drive unacompanied on a provisional? If so you havnt a leg to stand on. Law was fine to break while it suited you but now your qualified you couldnt give a toss about others.
I never ever ever drove unaccompanied until I had my full licence. I don't want a medal for this, but it would appear that I now have two fine legs to stand on!
As for giving a toss about others, what on earth are you talking about?! You cannot ask me to condone unlawful driving. I don't want to be on the road with users who can't drive and have been deemed unsafe to drive alone. I don't believe that's an unreasonable stance to take.
I think I'm done. This thread is getting ridiculous. Can't someone close it down?
Slaphead, Would you get on a plane with a pilot that could obviously make it fly and get you to where you wanted to go but for some reason or other he didn't pass his test???
I think not.
If forced into finding alternitive methods of travel people will find them, humans are very resourceful....... Why can't someone cycle the 10 or so miles to work. And if their job is dependant on driving there, well they have no other choice but to pass the test, spend his €1000 he saved for the fine on driving lessons.
I've given up on this debate now too! This is a new area now - the compotence of testers.
Slaphead, your arguments are becoming less and less relevant. Holding a phone in your hand is against the law and people are 'done' for this, breaking the limit is against the law and again people are punished by law, so why should breaking the law regarding 'L' drivers require a different stance. You are actually arguing against yourself.Did you really learn to drive in Ireland and never drive alone!Have you ever held a phone in your hand while driving, went a fraction over the limit? Were all law breakers to some degree.
You want a thread closed because your being wobbled off your high horse.
Did you really learn to drive in Ireland and never drive alone!Have you ever held a phone in your hand while driving, went a fraction over the limit? Were all law breakers to some degree.
You want a thread closed because your being wobbled off your high horse.