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Old 24-05-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default attic conversions and 'habitable purposes'

Does anyone know what constitutes 'habitable purposes' with respect to an attic conversion...

A lot of attics received restrictions on planning which states what they are not suitable for 'habitable purposes'

Does an desk/computer station constitute a habitable purpose ?
Would an extra toilet/shower used infrequently constitute habitable purpose ?

Any links to the actual defition would be great to....
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Old 24-05-2007, 10:53 AM
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From Building Regulations, Technical Guidance Document, Part B, Fire Safety:

"Habitable room - A room used for living or
sleeping purposes but does not include a kitchen
having a floor area less than 6.5 m2, a bathroom,
toilet or shower room."

See: http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/

See also the “Loft Conversion Leaflet” on this page for details.

The issue with loft conversions is that much stricter fire safety standards have to be met for habitable rooms.

See other parts of the Building Regulations (the Technical Guidance Documents) for more details.
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Old 24-05-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: attic conversions and 'habitable purposes'

first of all read this

http://www.environ.ie/en/Publication...ad,1657,en.pdf

the question of Habitable area is a grey issue when it comes
to loft conversions.. the best guide would be the diagram on
Page 8 of TGD F which sets out the area requirements for
a Habitable Room:
http://www.environ.ie/en/Publication...ad,1647,en.pdf

also important is the the definition of a Habitable Room as set
out in the above regulations is as follows (Page 4)
Quote:
"Habitable Room" means a room in a dwelling used for
living or sleeping purposes but does not include a kitchen having
a floor area having a floor area of less than 6.5m2
hope this helps
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Old 24-05-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: attic conversions and 'habitable purposes'

Related question on this one if you don't mind - when the installers claim that you will receive an 'certificate of compliance' or 'architects cert' do they mean that this certificate will confirm it has been built in accordance with the standards and could be used as a habitable (bed) room?
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Old 24-05-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: attic conversions and 'habitable purposes'

I'm guessing here, but I would have thought that any such cert would have to say on it, as the standards for rooms that are habitable are very different from those that aren't.

Or is that too sensible a thing to suggest?
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Old 24-05-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: attic conversions and 'habitable purposes'

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Originally Posted by pbyrne View Post
Related question on this one if you don't mind - when the installers claim that you will receive an 'certificate of compliance' or 'architects cert' do they mean that this certificate will confirm it has been built in accordance with the standards and could be used as a habitable (bed) room?
The cert would be to say it complies with building regulations for a non habitable room
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Old 25-05-2007, 12:43 PM
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Creating a habitable room is a little more complicated than people realise. Attics should be constructed as per the regulations for fire escape,ventilation,structure and conservation of fuel and energy documents of the building regulations for example. Its always best to have a professional give you advice if your constructing such a space otherwise its just classed as a storage space and and could only be sold as such. In respect to creating a space not for habitation the works still have to comply with structural and ventilation requirments and meet any restrictions the planning authority have placed on your home.
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:06 PM
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Does anyone know what constitutes 'habitable purposes' with respect to an attic conversion...

Any links to the actual defition would be great to....
I found the Faq section www.atticexpress.ie good on this
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