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mixalich139
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Hi Brendan,
1. My case is next:
I took loan in October 2007. Bank employee offer me a Personal Loan Protection (PLP). He explain that it would be good to have it, because it will cover me from sickness, accident, death & unemployment, the only one exclusion he mentioned that I won't be covered if I left my employment myself. He told that in case if something will happen I just need to inform the Bank.
It's took 30-40 min to sign the Loan contract (the only sing I signed at all)
I was send by my former employer on LAY OFF 01/2010 and 3 month later redundant.
I came to the Bank & told my situation, Bank employee just took my income (jobseeker's benefits amount) & outgoings to fill in the system and told me that I should receive a letter from the bank. I was thinking about cover.
Its took my solicitor 2-3 month just to find out from the Bank that I should do claim myself to Insurer & to find out the name of it. No name of insurer or his details were mentioned in the loan contract.
Anyway I found out later that policy I have cover only from Redundancy, not any other type of unemployment. In loan contract is clearly written UNEMPLOYMENT(not redundancy) in accordance with the policy details (policy which I never saw and/or signed). The insure wrote me that they cover only in accordance with their T&C, which never were explained to me properly and/or provided. I received them only 3 years later in May 2010 & I never signed them T&C. This is my point: I don't know when them T&C were written and/or corrected.
My case is complicated cause I had a case about redundancy with Employment Appeal Tribunal & got the decision in May 2011. So it's took long till Insurer cover arrears. The Bank was acting like a real .. all this time. Calling me a 20 times a day, letters etc.
But the worst was next: I was re-employed in 09/2010 & start paying full repayments again since October. 18/12/2010 I found that it's only €15 left on account, because the Bank took funds to cover arrears (without informing me at all). €15 TILL MY NEXT WAGES ON 31/01/2011 FOR ME, UNEMPLOYMENT WIFE & 2 KIDS. I should take a day off to went to the bank to refund them money.
2. I went to Ombudsman about this. I wanted Bank to cover first tree month, because they misled me about covering details & as the result first 3 month won't be covered by Insurer. Also I wanted the Bank to refund charges which were applied because of one their mistake (Bank admit that it was their mistake). And I wasn't asking any compensation.
During the investigation a few time Bank was trying to blame me, but I was providing evidence (even letters from the Bank) to proof that I was write.
3. I got the Finding from Ombudsman last week. He wrote that Bank is not proven to his satisfaction that I was provided with T&C ... at the point of sale in October 2007... Bank should be able to point to a letter or clear documentary evidence.. that it was provided to me. But nothing that the Bank should cover or compensate me 3 month payments. He wrote it's an issue for insurer (they covered 5 moth payments on redundancy), but my opinion that the Bank should cover 3 month because they mislead me & it's not insurer fault.
Also there is nothing mentioned about charges, just that Bank confirm that all charges were refunded????. I sent to Ombudsman explanation in details together with statement as a proof that not all charges were refunded.
Ombudsman directed to the Bank to pay me compensation €350. I spent on solicitor €300, €600 should pay now for 3 month repayments plus charges.So I'm not happy about this Finding & that's why I was asking if SAM27 was going forward with his case.
I would be appreciate if you'll write your opinion about this. Thanks. Mike
1. My case is next:
I took loan in October 2007. Bank employee offer me a Personal Loan Protection (PLP). He explain that it would be good to have it, because it will cover me from sickness, accident, death & unemployment, the only one exclusion he mentioned that I won't be covered if I left my employment myself. He told that in case if something will happen I just need to inform the Bank.
It's took 30-40 min to sign the Loan contract (the only sing I signed at all)
I was send by my former employer on LAY OFF 01/2010 and 3 month later redundant.
I came to the Bank & told my situation, Bank employee just took my income (jobseeker's benefits amount) & outgoings to fill in the system and told me that I should receive a letter from the bank. I was thinking about cover.
Its took my solicitor 2-3 month just to find out from the Bank that I should do claim myself to Insurer & to find out the name of it. No name of insurer or his details were mentioned in the loan contract.
Anyway I found out later that policy I have cover only from Redundancy, not any other type of unemployment. In loan contract is clearly written UNEMPLOYMENT(not redundancy) in accordance with the policy details (policy which I never saw and/or signed). The insure wrote me that they cover only in accordance with their T&C, which never were explained to me properly and/or provided. I received them only 3 years later in May 2010 & I never signed them T&C. This is my point: I don't know when them T&C were written and/or corrected.
My case is complicated cause I had a case about redundancy with Employment Appeal Tribunal & got the decision in May 2011. So it's took long till Insurer cover arrears. The Bank was acting like a real .. all this time. Calling me a 20 times a day, letters etc.
But the worst was next: I was re-employed in 09/2010 & start paying full repayments again since October. 18/12/2010 I found that it's only €15 left on account, because the Bank took funds to cover arrears (without informing me at all). €15 TILL MY NEXT WAGES ON 31/01/2011 FOR ME, UNEMPLOYMENT WIFE & 2 KIDS. I should take a day off to went to the bank to refund them money.
2. I went to Ombudsman about this. I wanted Bank to cover first tree month, because they misled me about covering details & as the result first 3 month won't be covered by Insurer. Also I wanted the Bank to refund charges which were applied because of one their mistake (Bank admit that it was their mistake). And I wasn't asking any compensation.
During the investigation a few time Bank was trying to blame me, but I was providing evidence (even letters from the Bank) to proof that I was write.
3. I got the Finding from Ombudsman last week. He wrote that Bank is not proven to his satisfaction that I was provided with T&C ... at the point of sale in October 2007... Bank should be able to point to a letter or clear documentary evidence.. that it was provided to me. But nothing that the Bank should cover or compensate me 3 month payments. He wrote it's an issue for insurer (they covered 5 moth payments on redundancy), but my opinion that the Bank should cover 3 month because they mislead me & it's not insurer fault.
Also there is nothing mentioned about charges, just that Bank confirm that all charges were refunded????. I sent to Ombudsman explanation in details together with statement as a proof that not all charges were refunded.
Ombudsman directed to the Bank to pay me compensation €350. I spent on solicitor €300, €600 should pay now for 3 month repayments plus charges.So I'm not happy about this Finding & that's why I was asking if SAM27 was going forward with his case.
I would be appreciate if you'll write your opinion about this. Thanks. Mike