Problems with kids near Kilbarrack dart station: tips

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Dear Forum,

I need some help here. I live near the Kilbarrack dart station, recently I got the windscreen of my car smashed, some not so nice drawings on the slabs of the front garden - all done by kids. I know this is something that can happen anywhere but I am wondering - is there any advice?
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I've no advice, i am having continual problems witht the same thing. I suppose if you could get their names at least you could call the guards every time they are amking a nuisance of themselves. On a malicious note i approached one the group that were hassling me, one day when i saw the gang leader with a group in our local town i went past and i heard him sniggering so i went up to him and said "johnny, i don't know what your laughing at, your auntie told me you still wet the bed!" (I don't know if he even has an auntie but he prob does) Later i was lucky enough to see him alone and i told him i was liable to say much worse, should he ever decide to pass an evening outside my house again.. haven't seen a sign of him since. Scum... And the parents don't give a monkeys...

Anyway you are not alone.
 
Hello! The pb is that I am a foreigner - so kind of afraid if I approach one of them of worst behaviours. I have called the Gardee several times. Thanks anyway for your advice.
 
Well if the cops tollerate the problem, then is this sort of behaviour acceptable to the Irish Public? Even Mexican cops will deal with a problem if you bribe them enough...

Do Garda take bribes? Basket of scones for the station or something?
 
Hi

I had this problem a number of years ago in Dublin 8 area. I was advised to speak to my local Sinn Fein rep (which I did) and thankfully, the problem stopped! The gardai had not been able to do anything constructive for me and I had broken windows, car vandalised, etc etc. Sinn Fein sorted it for me!

May be worth looking into.
 
Helen321 said:
I had this problem a number of years ago in Dublin 8 area. I was advised to speak to my local Sinn Fein rep (which I did) and thankfully, the problem stopped! The gardai had not been able to do anything constructive for me and I had broken windows, car vandalised, etc etc. Sinn Fein sorted it for me!
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I don't like the implications of that.
 
Padraigb said:
I don't like the implications of that.
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I wasn't too happy with it either but given a choice between broken windows (monthly at one point), car trashed on 3 occasions and other antisocial behaviour I took the "conversation with Sinn Fein rep" route...and it worked. My community liaison garda could do nothing to stop it, though both he and his colleagues tried. Sinn Fein could..., and did

Rock and a hard place.
 
I am bothered that people seem to accept that the best response to bad behaviour is to invite somebody else to indulge in worse behaviour.
 
Padraigb said:
I am bothered that people seem to accept that the best response to bad behaviour is to invite somebody else to indulge in worse behaviour.
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I just let the OP know what worked for me, and I did point out that it wasn't my first port of call - but the gardai were no good. What would you suggest? (Thats not meant to be confrontational - am genuinely interested in other solutions)
 
I agree that problems like this are not easy to address. It's just that I think that having a dodgy group running an important aspect of community life is even worse.

Some initial thoughts on what to do
- Try to engage with the kids, not on the matter of their behaviour in relation to your property (act as if you don't know they are responsible) but as people in your community. It can be little things like asking for directions to some place, or even asking a small favour like help with bringing in some heavy shopping. Very often kids like that won't persecute you if they think they have any kind of relationship with you.
- If you can afford it, have CCTV fitted.
[One carrot, one stick. You could even combine them by telling the kids that some strangers are damaging your property, and you are getting CCTV fitted.]
 
Are the kids wearing school uniforms and doing it to/from their school day? If so take up their behaviour with the schools concerned.

Are you engaging in the local community at all? That is to say are you familiar with anyone else in the area, involved in any community groups etc. Unfortunately for this particular area of Dublin respect for adults is earned and not assumed. Adults who participate in the community; and work with kids or adults are far less likely to have their personal property damaged.

If you're close to the train station then you'd be familiar with many of the projects being run nearby - for example the KLEAR Project which is very close to the station; and there are a good few school attendance projects in the local primary schools.

Get out there and do something for your community and it will do something for you.
 
sustanon said:
The OP is entitled to live in peace, and is not responsible for "parenting" these vandals. If they are not accountable to the law, then their parents should be held accountable. I'd like to know why exactly the cops can't handle this situation? oh wait, the little $h1ts have zip respect for authority or personal property to begin with. jail time....or better, hard labour.
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I can see them weeding the OPs garden in a fortnight :rolleyes:
 
GreenQueen said:
Are the kids wearing school uniforms and doing it to/from their school day? If so take up their behaviour with the schools concerned...
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Schools cannot be responsible for the behaviour of students when they are not at school.
 
GreenQueen said:
Are you engaging in the local community at all? .. Get out there and do something for your community and it will do something for you.
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What a curious argument !

If you get involved in local community activities, then you'll be spared the anti-social behaviour ? If you choose to live your own life, then you'll get a dose of what's going ?

My knowledge is less than limited. Occasionally I pass through Kilbarrack station on late-night DARTs and the behaviour of the feral kids who get on and off at that station is disgraceful. If I thought my own children could behave like that, I would be deeply ashamed.

Last weekend, I was talking with someone whose teenage son sometimes socialises in Kilbarrack. The son had asked, "how come around here (his own area) I never get stopped by the Gardai but when I cross the road to Kilbarrack I get stopped 2/3 times a night ?"

The cause of the problem & the solution is not the OPs.
 
Well in one occasion they were outside my garden and ask me something. I replied politely and went inside. 2 minutes after my outdoor light was smashed. To be honest I don't mind to be involved in the community but in a way I am scared they will know who I am. Sorry but I am even more concerned as I am a foreigner (even though I have been living here for many years).
 
GreenQueen said:
Get out there and do something for your community and it will do something for you.
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You have to be having a laugh.

With all due respect, if my windows or doors were being smashed in at every hands turn and I was afraid in my own house, I would not care if it were Sinn Fein or the Queen of Sheeba once they could help me.
 
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