serotoninsid
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Surely the spamspamspam thing is secondary. Is there an issue with the tenant or is there not (taking spamspamspam out of the equation)? Tin foil is not an indicator of hard drug use in and of itself!
Tenant smoking weed - options?
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You don't seem very clear on how the property is being rented. Or the laws and conditions attracted. I suspect what you've done is rented rooms. not the property. I'm guessing that's what they told the PRTB. Renting rooms is different to renting a entire house. It changes what you can do. Renting rooms can get very messy. As you've discovered.
Contact PRTB yourself. find out first hand, not from the tenants. PRTB also side with landlords only IF they are in the right.
However Threashold in my experience always side with the tenants. That's their objective. They don't give a fiddlers about LL's. I think they can give poor advice due to this bias.
Contact PRTB yourself. find out first hand, not from the tenants. PRTB also side with landlords only IF they are in the right.
However Threashold in my experience always side with the tenants. That's their objective. They don't give a fiddlers about LL's. I think they can give poor advice due to this bias.
Very smart students those. Did they give you the notice in writing? That's the only bit of the rules I know that is a requirement.
If you're renting by the room, which is apparetly what you are doing, is that not a very bad idea. Ditto the utilities. Next time they are begging to stay, let them deal with the utilities.
Why are so many of them moving around, is this normal for students. I don't take students myself, too much risk of damage, but uppity ones quoting the PRTB at me would drive me insane.
Even though I'm a landlord I don't know the rules on notice as I just ignore all that, if the tenant wants to leave it's fine by me. But no tenant has ever served me notice in writing or quoted the PRTB to me.
I did though think if there was a fixed term lease that they couldn't serve you notice.
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Report it to the Gardaí.
To be clear - I rented the house for 1 year as I have done for quite a few years before..... I did not rent by room.
I'll give the PRTB a call to check out.Very smart students those. Did they give you the notice in writing? That's the only bit of the rules I know that is a requirement. Yes the put it in writing (wording provided by the PRTB)
If you're renting by the room, which is apparetly what you are doing, nope is that not a very bad idea. agree Ditto the utilities. Next time they are begging to stay, let them deal with the utilities.
Why are so many of them moving around spamspamspam head probably the main issue here, is this normal for students. I don't take students myself, too much risk of damage, but uppity ones quoting the PRTB at me would drive me insane. I'm now with you on this Bronte
Even though I'm a landlord I don't know the rules on notice as I just ignore all that, if the tenant wants to leave it's fine by me. But no tenant has ever served me notice in writing or quoted the PRTB to me. Sadly I think this is a virus that will start spreading - I'm hearing this from other guys in our business, get ready for all the mothers crying that students can't get accomodation
I did though think if there was a fixed term lease that they couldn't serve you notice.
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Very good point,where does it end... do the liberals want "a la carte " laws?
Im more than surprised by some of the replies and comments on this issue.
Having been one of those uppity students I would have to take umbrage
they have taken care to inform themselves and are trying to do it by the book. Frankly, it sounds like the other students have found themselves in an awkward and uncomfortable situation and having done some research or perhaps spoken to their SU or to Threshold have found that they can get out of it. As I said, this close to exams it is surprising for any student to decide a move is necessary so it must be quite serious a problem they are encountering and once one finds the way they would have told the others.
Not great for the poor landlord stuck with the problem tenant but by what btbmcd has said I don't think (s)he has had any issue with the ones who have left per se (aside from the fact they leave him/her with what would seem to be an unrentable room)
A classic case of a bad egg spoiling it for everyone else. btbmcd has tried to play fair as (s)he knows they are students and until this year that has been okay but now having had this experience with one person (s)he will change approach.
Oh please do. And find out how to avoid them giving you 28 days notice after only being there a couple of months. While you're on to them, ask them where this info is on their website, so you can quote it verbatum to your next tenants.
Edit: Next time the parents are whinging to Joe, ie next August, phone up and state why you don't want students.
I think some of us don't feel we are the moral guardians of others. I don't want to know what my tenants are up to. What next, we have to check their bedroom habits, how many cans they have of a Saturday night and downloading of porn. It's hard enough minding my own children.
And now there's a court case where a landlord has to pay up because of the unsocial behaviour of his tenants. Where's the Gardai, the council, the law.
Bet anything that if Btbmcd went to the Gardai about the weed they wouldn't do a thing. And you can be sure as hell if he turfed the little lad out the parents would be onto Joe, and landlord would be haulted to the PRTB to explain that he isn't a horrible landlord.
Once they pay the rent sure who cares what misery they are imposing on neighbours
Unfortunately caring doesn't provide the LL with any legal means of prompt action. The LL is is damned if they do nothing, or if they do something.
Then AFAIK you don't have to return a deposit by room etc. The tenants themselves have to manage that and any shortfall in tent themselves.
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What problems are being caused to neighbours in this case? In any event, how could a LL be made responsible for the actions of others!? Neighbours have to formally complain to the Gardai. If our laws are not stringent enough to deal with anti-social behaviour, that's hardly the fault of a landlord?
A landlord is running a business. Not setting himself up as some sort of moral compass!postman pat said:
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Am I missing something here?... i dont care what people take/smoke/inject but if someone is spaced out in MY house I do.I"m on the side of landlords on this if I didnt make it clear before.
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Is this individual doing any damage to the property? If so, then it's an issue (but one which is down to the individual). Condensing it down, it seems that a group of house mates shared a house and found they didn't get on! That's hardly a new occurrence!
Smoking pot (or drinking alcohol or whatever else..) is secondary.
This is so unfair, I am a private renting tenant in receipt of rent allowance as I am disabled, and I have a cottage for me and my dogs which I keep well and wouldn't dream of not paying rent or bills even if I had to go without food etc to do so! These rules and bad tenants make it harder for the likes of me to find suitable affordable homes to rent even tho many of us are responsible tenants. I have been on the other end of the stick where the landlord kept my 1100 deposit because there "was a dead mouse in a press 2wks after we moved out"!! Threshold could do nothing so I was basically robbed!
Now you're going to have to explain how the landlord was legally entitled to take 1100 deposit for a dead mouse. And also what did Threshold actually advise you?
That's not what I said. My meaning is well clear. As long as tenants are behaving themselves, and even if they are smoking weed or whatever, as long as they are not bothering anybody or causing damage I have no interest in what they get up to.
Actually the law is quite useless. We've had posters living beside the worst of people unable to do anything about it. There was a particularly desparate story about 2 years ago but she was dealing with owners.
But in relation to landlords, we have a responsibilty in relation to our tenants anti social behaviour. If the neighbours complain to the PRTB we have to get the tenants out. And to get them out, you can forget the gardai or the PRTB helping you. As for the law, that will cost one, and take forever. Meanwhile you can be sure the tenants will be paying you zero and leave the house in a miserable state.
As for unsocial behavior in state housing, no PRTB rules apply to them, so they stay and never get evicted (or one case every couple of years, murder, serious anti social, drug dealing types)