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Do you mean we will be getting some dosh in the 3rd week of Feb? Oh, I do hope it's true.........

Ah now Jerome, I don't think you have many worries on the employment front considering your talent for running with the fox and chasing with the hounds..... http://siliconrepublic.com/news/article/14952/business/new-eircom-board-announced

Here we go again. More bitching and backbiting. I really couldn't care less what happens to eircom at this stage but am tied to this bumbling dinosaur because of the esop. I want my money and I want out. In fact, I need my money. Can someone offer a ray of hope in this regard?

Pancake, you surprise me, one should never end a sentence with a preposition. And with regard to your comment concerning the democratic process, I would like to ask your views on the apparent 'hand in glove' behaviour of the union and esop. It is a fact that they claim autonomy from one...

I think you missed my point Grover and I wouldn't argue with yours. Perhaps I was being oblique. I would have thought a low turn-out would indicate that a high percentage of esop members believe that their vote is meaningless. Whether it is or not is another argument altogether but there is...

A low return alright. Might this be evidence of members feeling disenfranchised and powerless in the face of an organisation which seems to care less about our views in any case? Dialogue costs nothing Esot.

We're sobbing quietly in our respective corners.....

Well....it would appear that a payment is indeed off the cards for Christmas. Personally, I feel physically sick when I think of what's facing me financially. This could have given me a dig out. Perhaps we could find out where the esop are planning to have their Christmas party and stand...

You have the makings of another 'sunscreen' song there Paddy :-)

Maybe when there's a full moon and Venus is on an axis with Mars and the heavens align, the grand wizard of the esop will come into our earthly realm..........and let us know what the **** is going on!

My instinct was to vote yes, that is until I read Esop Extra 21. It would appear to me that STT do not require or need investment in Eircom from the Esop. I have no objection to STT having more than a 50% stake in the company. In fact I would propose that it is those who are resistant to...

There shouldn't be any need for allocation or redemption for the shares that were redeemed in June and withheld. Surely it's just a case of issuing a cheque for our money which was held back in the summer?

Thank you eircomlifer for putting a little ray of hope into what was shaping up to be a very gloomy Monday :-) While I understand everyone's impulse to return a NO vote I really don't think this would achieve anything in the long run except to shoot ourselves in the foot.

All I can say with certainty is that all this is completely doing my head in! One person says there is a payment coming, another says there isn't. Hopes raised and dashed in the space of two posts. I sometimes wish I had never found this forum. :-(

I fail to see how my position equates in any way with the current crash! I have been put in a position of dependence BECAUSE of the crash! What is your point in any case? You are coming across as being extremely smug, almost gloating over the fact that people actually NEED this money. The...

Big Spender........yes I am dependent on a payout this Christmas. I lost my job earlier this year. I am lucky enough to have secured another one but at a much reduced take home pay. (8.5k less per annum). Of course I have done my best to cut my cloth etc. there are lots of things I don't have...

Paul, I believe this would be an unwise course of action in the current climate. However I understand where you're coming from on this. I would be more interested in getting some legal advice on our position as members of the esop and whether it might be possible to mount some sort of...

Surely we are entitled to receive money for the shares withheld but already redeemed in our names in June?

Right on! ph