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Elliesausage

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Hi everyone, looking for some advice. I began employment last March at an agreed rate of €10 per hour after tax. Recently I did a tally of hours worked so I could determine what's owed to me in lieu of bank holidays. I work 25.5 hours but only get paid €240 weekly, so I've been short paid €15 weekly for the past 38 weeks. I'm going to approach my employer so the matter can be rectified, am I entitled to the €15*38 weeks paid to m? I know I should have spotted this sooner. I don't have a contract of employment so I don't have that to fall back onto. However my employer signed documents for Social Welfare stating €10 per hour as my nett pay. Also I'm supposed to get 20% commission on certain sales, I've achieved €1000 in this type of sales since March yet I haven't received any commission
commission. I have a letter from my employer stating the terms of my commission payment.

My main question is am I entitled to what I've been short paid, does she HAVE to pay it to me, even when I'm so late bringing it to her attention?
 
If your employer has agreed to pay you a net salary then they are crazy.

Unless you have assigned all your credits to this employment they are exposing themselves to paying €10 extra in taxes for you!

Are you sure it's €10 net? If so then you are entitled to it.
 
Yes absolutely 100% sure it's €10 nett, I have a copy of documentation signed for Social Welfare stating €10 nett. All credits signed to this employment as I dont work anywhere else. Checked with other employeed, they're €10 nett also! So do you think I'm entitled to my backpay?
 
Yes absolutely 100% sure it's €10 nett, I have a copy of documentation signed for Social Welfare stating €10 nett. All credits signed to this employment as I dont work anywhere else. Checked with other employeed, they're €10 nett also! So do you think I'm entitled to my backpay?
When an employer signs Social Welfare form for employees they have to put down the gross pay [not nett] Or so I have always found to be the case.
 
When an employer signs Social Welfare form for employees they have to put down the gross pay [not nett] Or so I have always found to be the case.
That's my understanding of it as well.
If your employer is agreeing wages for staff based on net pay rates then I’d be worried for the business as they are very unprofessional in how they conduct their affairs.
 
Also I'm supposed to get 20% commission on certain sales, I've achieved €1000 in this type of sales since March yet I haven't received any commission
commission. I have a letter from my employer stating the terms of my commission payment.
What is the agreement in terms of when you get paid commission?

Do you receive payslips? What do they say?
 
That's my understanding of it as well.
If your employer is agreeing wages for staff based on net pay rates then I’d be worried for the business as they are very unprofessional in how they conduct their affairs.
Unprofessional is an understatement. Net pay is what has been agreed and is what was stated on documentation. Contacting social welfare for copies of said documentation.
 
This whole scenario stinks.



Your employer is obliged to give you pay slips.


Pay rates are always pre-tax. An employer who agrees net of tax rates looks dodgy or incompetent.


Why is the Department of Social Welfare (Social Protection) involved in your pay an tax affairs?


You should know yourself that pay rates are always set pre-tax and not after tax. Otherwise your employers costs could increase or decrease significantly based solely on your personal circumstances. I suggest you spend some time reading through this to inform yourself about how income tax works and this about pay and employment.
 
20% commission on a certain type of sales, paid monthly. Don't get payslips unless we request them.

I agree with Purple - this does not sound good.

1) You should not have to request payslips
2) You say the commission is supposed to be paid monthly but it hasn't been paid at all.
3) You think you are being shortchanged (more difficult to confirm that without a full set of payslips)

I think you need to read up the links Purple provided. I think you also need to ensure that any tax or PRSI due has been paid.
 
P60 will be due at the end of year. It needs to be checked carefully for the amount of tax paid, the number and rate of PRSI contributions paid Usc etc.
Me thinks this may not make pleasant reading.
 
Just an update.... employer approached me at the start of the year and has told me that my wages have been 'increased' to €10 an hour after tax as requested!!! Payslips are still only given to employees when requested. Have not yet received a P60 nor has there been any word about getting it. Will wait until the end of the month and ask then. I've been informed today that I am only 'allowed' take 4 Saturdays off in the year, annual leave. As far as I was concerned I have a certain number of days annual leave each year and I didn't realise there are any legal guidelines in relation to when and how they are taken???
 
I've been informed today that I am only 'allowed' take 4 Saturdays off in the year, annual leave. As far as I was concerned I have a certain number of days annual leave each year and I didn't realise there are any legal guidelines in relation to when and how they are taken???

That'll be the Working Time Act. The employer is allowed to set the criteria in which annual leave can be taken. See [broken link removed] for more details.
 
Just an update.... employer approached me at the start of the year and has told me that my wages have been 'increased' to €10 an hour after tax as requested!!! Payslips are still only given to employees when requested. Have not yet received a P60 nor has there been any word about getting it. Will wait until the end of the month and ask then. I've been informed today that I am only 'allowed' take 4 Saturdays off in the year, annual leave. As far as I was concerned I have a certain number of days annual leave each year and I didn't realise there are any legal guidelines in relation to when and how they are taken???

Are you requesting payslips then?

Have you investigated at all whether tax and PRSI are being paid? Or are you waiting for your P60 (I would suggest you do not wait by the way).
 
Do you request payslips? Does anyone?

Drat, ETA, I get payslips/pay with no problems, but it takes until the end of January or into February each year to get the P60. (I'll probably get it today after saying this!)
 
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