Learning DROPBOX, the hard way

TarfHead

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A year or two ago an external hard drive of mine stopped working and the GBs of family photographs on it were now inaccessible. I paid a significant amount of money to get the data recovered and decided to get a subscription to Dropbox. I piled all such data into my Dropbox folders and thought that was all OK.

I recently ran a scan on my laptop hard drive and found that the Dropbox folders on my laptop were consuming about as much disk space as I was paying for to dropbox.com. I then learned that a feature called 'Selective Sync' was active against all of those Dropbox folders on my laptop. I received advice, though a Dropbox supported forum, that I could delete the files off the laptop and that would free up disk space on my laptop. I followed this advice and the files disappeared off my local Dropbox folders, but also my dropbox.com storage. Fortunately, they provide a recovery function so no data was lost.

I then tried using the Upload function, but found that this would not work, for me, when 3 files or more were nominated. Maybe that's an issue with my laptop, maybe it's an issue with the aggregate volume of data being up loaded, maybe it's something else but the bottom line was that the Upload function was not suitable for my needs.

I then tried another approach. I moved files into my local Dropbox folders and let Selective Sync upload them to dropbox.com. Once uploaded, I then moved them, within dropbox.com, to another folder against which Selective Sync is not operational. Selective Sync then deleted them off my laptop.

So far, so good except that the free space on my laptop did not increase in line with the volume of data deleted. Further investigation revealed that Dropbox maintains a local cache of deleted data on my laptop. Once I followed the instructions for removing that, my free space increased dramatically. And the files uploaded are still in dropbox.com.

Lessons learned;
- only use Selective Sync against folders you need to have synchronised across devices
- if the Upload doesn't work for you, consider trying the approach that worked for me. Start with one file, something you would not miss if it were lost, than scale up to the files & folders you care about.
- use Google to find out how to action the local Dropbox cache.
 
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If you have a decent upload speed, Flickr is a good option for backing up photos - you get 1TB of space for free.
 
Hi, you are correct in everything that you say. But it means that you don't have a local copy of those files any more?
 
Hi, you are correct in everything that you say. But it means that you don't have a local copy of those files any more?
Thanks
Yes, but my objective was to get them off my laptop drive. These are files I will/may need some time, just not all the time, so having a local copy was not a requirement for me.
 
I think it would be prudent to spent 40 euro and get an external 2.5" HDD so that you can keep a local copy of the files as well in case something happens to the Amazon S3 storage (upon which Dropbox is based).
 
I've had similar hard end lessons in data backup and storage issues online and offline. There are many online (or cloud if you like that expression) and offline storage options. After a couple of USB disk failures in relatively quick succession I was worried about storage reliability and annoyed at the amount of time to restore everything.
Then I was really shocked a little time ago when I read this https://www.backblaze.com/blog/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/ about how unreliable drives are. Local or Cloud it really does not matter drives are somewhere.
Now I have become a complete pain (sorry) in encouraging everyone and anyone to also backup locally even if they have cloud storage. I practically never use single USB drives now other than temporary use and only use a RAID (with minimum 2 mirrored disks) for home network backup. Now at least I have the chance to easily recover by treasured family data without the huge costs for recovery as mentioned by TarfHead.
I know it may seem over the top but who do you really trust in the long run to protect your data.
 
One good cheap option is 2 or 3 2.5" HDDs and rotate them to an offsite location, e.g. family members when visiting. You can use Truecrypt to keep all the information private.
 
I use Google Drive for everything, 30GB of free storage. If you exceed that, it costs $1.99 a month for another 100GB (I'm only using 5.5GB to date so it will be a while before I need to buy more). I have Google Drive backed up by Spanning.com which costs $40 a year.


Steven
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I think it would be prudent to spent 40 euro and get an external 2.5" HDD so that you can keep a local copy of the files as well in case something happens to the Amazon S3 storage (upon which Dropbox is based).

Well it's the cost of two, as I have learned the hard way that having everything on one HDD is not a back-up :mad:. And the discipline of a proper back-up strategy. So paying dropbox an annual fee is something I am willing to do, to avoid the overhead of a DIY approach. And I'm not in a position to question their ability to deliver the service paid for.
 
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