Online Car Scam

ixodides said:
I have done more research about that, (It is productive :p as I inform other people), this is indeed another scam, the cheque which is going to come will be probably a loan cheque which will clears in 2-3 days but that money will be deducted from your account in a month time.

Please do not wast your time like I did.

his e-mail is

[email protected]

His e-mails are always written with bad English...

Just have a look on few e-mails he sent to me:

Thank you. Type in google "Car Buyer Scam", there is lots of articles.


Please delete similar e-mails, this is a complete waste of time.
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Hi,
Thanks so much for posting it. I got these exact same 3 emails yesterday, (I posted my ad on Car Buyer Guide.ie) and I got suspicious, so I did a search on FB with his email adress ([email protected]) and found the link to this topic.

Thanks again for saving me to loose money on this.

One always has to be carefull when dealing on the internet.

I won't get back to that guy, so he'll keep the same identity, and hopefully people will find him and get that link like I did.

Thanks!
Lilie
 
still at it..

Thank you for this post as I nearly got stung.. seems he is still at it, I though it was strange how the ad kept appearing and disappearing on Gumtree, they're obvioulsy very aware of him and his scams


Audi A4 S-Line 1.9TDI 2004
The price is € 4,500
Alloys, Sunroof, Metallic Paint, Electric Windows, Central Locking, Remote Central Locking, Alarm, Immobiliser, Driver's Air Bag, Passenger Air Bag, Multiple Air Bags, Air Conditioning, Climate Control, CD Player, Adjustable Steering Wheel, Heated Seats, DVD !
Sport Line Model Full S Line Body Kit 17 RS Alloys Center Arm Rest 7 inch Touch Screen DVD player/CD Sat Nav Ready Wind Deflectors. Spare Wheel Alloy Absolutely Immaculate inside and out.
Diesel 4 doors, manual transmission, Silver.
Mileage : 76,000, NCT 01/2012, Airbags, Alloys, CD / Radio, Colour Coded Bumpers, Electric Mirrors, Electric Windows, Full Service History, Metallic Paint, Power Steering, Remote Central Locking, Traction Control, 1 owner.
Excellent Condition, the car was kept in a garage , it has Audi service book,the tires have been changed recently, and doesn't need repairings.It has no engine problem, no scratches.
Registered in Ireland .The car is at the moment in Liverpool, UK.
I live in the USA, I bought the car for my brother who lived in Ireland and then moved to UK. Unfortunately he died recently and I cannot take the car with me.
You do not have to pay any taxes for this car. It is very easy to register it to your name .
I have all the documents ready for sale. The car documents are on my name, so it is very simple.
As payment I only accept cash and we will have to meet in Liverpool for the sale.

Thank you and I hope you will decide to buy my car.
Here are some photos.
Many thanks, Pat


 
I was nearly caught last year on a 1996 Diesel Toyota Advenis, on an Irish site looked a great car, good price. However no plates Numbers, When I got them from the vendor (NI plate) I ran it throught and paid, for a UK check, the car had been written off by the insurance company. When I tackled the Vendor he played dumb.
DO NOT PART WITH A CENT UNTIL YOU HAVE A MECHANIC CHECK THE CAR, IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
 
That guy has been at it on several sites, I have gotten his add removed numurous times but the sites dont monitor these adds as theykeep coming back. Im sure they are happy to take the advert fee and wait for someone to point it out, but its not right...
Such a dirty trick to try and pull on people, I can imagine some innocent sod getting shafted on that, no conscience these people..
 
"I live in the USA, I bought the car for my brother who lived in Ireland and then moved to UK. Unfortunately he died recently and I cannot take the car with me.
You do not have to pay any taxes for this car. It is very easy to register it to your name .
I have all the documents ready for sale. The car documents are on my name, so it is very simple.
As payment I only accept cash and we will have to meet in Liverpool for the sale."

Anyone daft enough to follow up on an ad like this deserves to get scammed . He is going to fly back from the USA for the sake of 4,500, miss out on work and may not even get a sale!!! As an old frind of mine used to say " pleassssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee"

Its good its flagged though.

noah
 
I spotted the same advert for the 2004 audi a4 s line on usedcarsni.com. The phone number that was on the ad could not be recognised so i sent him an email through usedcarsni.com, i got the exact same email back about his dead brother, the car location on the advert was country antrim, but he sent in the email that it was in liverpool in a garage locked up, he then sent me pictures of the tax books for the car and today i got pictures of his licence (californian) and a picture of him on his wedding day and him holding a new born baby with a woman on a hospital bed. If anybody wants me to forward these to them a will happily do so. I would love to meet this man in person. I mite have been caught with this only i googled the name Pat Harte and saw pat harte audi an it brought me into this. I cant thank all involved here enough or i would have lost my money, thank you
 
I guess they might not actually be photos of him? Weird to send someone photos of your wedding and new baby when selling them a car...
 
same story with pat harte got the family pics an all!!I told him i couldnt get my scanner working so he gave me his fax no : 001 or +1 . 610.672.9556. not that im goin to send him anything but is there anything that could be done with the fax no? i told him i sent the fax but he says he hasn't received it... Some people with too much trust will still fall for this scam and be out of pocket..
 
western union car scam

Be Aware of someone claiming to be James oliver, email [email protected], advertising a black covertible beetle tdi via the autotrader website, under a garage called english leasing in Leicster. He claims he is a 63 year old man who has now moved to Thurnos Scotland, and would be willing to meet in Carlisle, England, on the proviso you provide a copy of a western union transfer to proove that a) you have the funds, and b) you will save him a wasted journey! he tried it on me recently, he is very convincing fortunately a saw sense before it was too late.
I am posting his details on as many forums as I can so that other people can be warned before they loose any money!
 
Seriously if

"Registered in Ireland .The car is at the moment in Liverpool, UK.
I live in the USA, "

Doesn't ring alarm bells for you. Stay off the internet.
 
hi on page 5 of this thread #94 think that might be my email account that was used can any help me i getting spam & scam to inbox every day now
 
colin said:
hi on page 5 of this thread #94 think that might be my email account that was used can any help me i getting spam & scam to inbox every day now
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Send me a link to the post or PM me the address. I don't see an email address listed in post #94.

There is one email address listed in a subsequent post, but this was an address a scammer was using. Also, those posts go back 4 years...
 
Ann hand owes me 5000 euro from the same scam in 2009
Erika said:
Unfortunately I am a victim of this car scam. But I'd like to help others not to make the same mistake. So here is the story:

I have seen an advert on the carzone.ie. It was a BMW, reg. No.02-D-81300
BMW 318Ci Coupe 2002

The price is 3800 euros
Petrol, 2 doors, manual transmission, silver.
ABS, Air Con., Airbags, Alarm, Alloys, CD, Cruise Control, Fogs, Immobiliser, Leather, Metallic Paint, Side Airbags
Excellent Condition, the car was kept in a garage , it has BMW service book,the tires have been changed recently, and doesn't need repairings.It has no engine problem, no scratches.
Registered in Ireland .The car is at the moment in Liverpool, UK. I live in the USA, I bought the car for my brother who lived in Ireland and then moved to UK. Unfortunately he died recently and I cannot take the car with me.
You do not have to pay any taxes for this car. It is very easy to register it to your name .
I have all the documents ready for sale. The car documents are on my name, so it is very simple.
As payment I only accept cash and we will have to meet in Liverpool for the sale.

Thank you and I hope you will decide to buy my car.
Here are some photos.

Many thanks,Ann.
1. email

Hello Erika,
Thank you for your reply. As I allready explained , I live in USA and I will go to Liverpool only for this deal.
The car is not far from the airport, but if you don't know Liverpool at all, I can wait for you at the airport.
I could meet you there this weekend, if that is ok for you too, but I have to be sure that you are serious, because I have a long way ...from USA to UK .
So here are my conditions:
I won't ask for any money in advance, but you must reserve the car and I will come only if you are decided to buy it .And as a warranty that you really want to buy the car and that you have the money (in cash) for the car, I require that you arrange a payed deposit on your name , for the price of the car ( 3800 euro). Regarding the deposit, there is a service very fast and easy to use, named Western Union. It is used for sending cash money . All that you have to do is to ask a friend or family to go to Western Union with the cash and to send it to Liverpool, to your name as receiver.
Your friend will be the sender and you will be the receiver in Liverpool. (I ask you to do this because I want to be 100 % sure that you will be there and you will be ready to buy it because last week I went to Liverpool for nothing. A man from Dublin told me that he wants to meet me and buy it , so I went to Liverpool, but he never came and never answered to my emails .)
After you make the transfer, I want you to send me an email with the scan of the receipt , so I can check with Western Union and if the transfer is ok, I will come to Liverpool to close the deal.
You will verify the documents and test the car and we will make the sale documents. Then we will go to a Western Union office, you will take the money and pay me.
PS: I told you that someone else must be the sender, not you, because some Western Union offices do not give you the money if the receiver is also sender.
Regarding the transfer fees, you will deduce them from the total amount,So that you won't pay nothing more ,just the price that we agreed ( for example 3700 euro+ fees 100 euro= 3800).
This transfer is also good for you because you avoid the risk of a traveling with the money in pocket.

Let me know if this is OK with you as soon as possible , let me know if I should reserve the car for you.

Thank you,
Ann Hand

2.email

Hi Ann,

Thanks for your reply again. I know it is a very risky business for you ,but it is risky for me as well. I also have to be sure, that you are coming, and the car is in a good condition , because I also have to buy a flight ticket, and a ferry ticket for the return way.
So , here is my idea.
I book my flights, and I send you the booking reference. So you can be sure, that I'm going. And I'd like to ask you to send your booking reference as well, because I am looking for a car for a while, and I had bad experience.

We could go on this Sunday, and we would be there by 11:45 a.m.

Please, let me know if it is OK for you, and then I can book my flights.

Thanks,

Erika

3.email

Hello Erika,
Ok, I will book my car for you.OK, the car is fully paid, I own the car, no speeding and parking tickets, there is no problem, I can assure you about that!
Ok, the car is locked in a garage that I have rented in Liverpool, as I don't have anyone there to take care of it. It has been off road for only 2 weeks when it has been serviced . So it is ok, you don't need to do any repair , you don't need to change anything, I changed the tires too, they are new.
The car is not far from the airport, but if you don't know Liverpool at all, I can wait for you at the airport.




















I have a lot of people asking me about the car. Now if you want to reserve it, I am waiting for the copy of the western union transfer. And then we will discuss the details of our meeting in Liverpool.
You must go to a Western Union agent , (you can find one in each postal office or Western Union Agency). As I allready explained you in a previous email ( where I told you about the transfer), you will make a deposit on your name for the price of the car ( 3700euro + aprox. 100 transfer fees)..=3800 euro, so you won't pay more then we agreed.
As I told you , you will be the receiver for the money In Liverpool.
Ok, you knew about the fees, I told you about that. I told you that you will only transfer 3700 if the fees are 100 , so that you don't pay more then we agreed.
Ok, I will be waiting for the copy of the transfer Western Union!
PS: When you will go to make this transfer at Office Post, you will say that you want to send the money for your cousin, father, mother, or another member of your family, because if u say that you will send the money for the car, maybe is another fees, for business transaction....

Kind Regards,
Ann Hand

4.email

Hi Ann,

I haven't got an answer from you, that you could reserve the car for me. I couldn't do the money transfer in the morning, because the bank opens at 10a.m., and I am working from 10a.m. So I could do it in the afternoon, if you could reserve the car for me.
Could you let me know, if that is OK?

Thanks

Erika

5.email

Hello Erika,
Ok that's great.. I will book my car for you..and I will be waiting for your Western Union receipt!


Thanks,
Ann

6.email

Hello Erika,
I'm waiting for your receipt!


Thanks,
Ann


Unfortunately I was so eager to get this car, that I have done the money transfer. But I didn't send her the receipt, just a picture about the trasfer status, which was ready to pick up by receiver. So she didn't know any details. How could she pick up the money anyway.

I reported the case to the police and the Western Union, but I think they don't do anything at all. Western Union is sucks. I paid €126 for the transfer, and they gave the money to someone else. And there is no insurance, there is no responsibility. How could it happen????????? What else can I do???
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I was stung by this person as well I never showed the tracking number for the transfer but they way they got it from me was in one of the mails they had a link to Western Union to check the money has been transferred but here is the catch. If you open the link in the mail it's not western union it's the philshing part of the scam, a dummy site with Western Union headline on it if you put the number for tracking it comes up blank on your side but is displayed on his site.
I was stung for 5000 euro went to gardai and found out that Anne hand was the original owner in Dublin so they where using her details to scam you then they use your name on false I'd to get the money. Western Union should be closed down they where no help at all as for the gardai
 
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