How much to pay 16 year old - childminding

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hello, can anyone advise who much to pay 16 year old for childminding - 8.30 - 4.30 - she lives next door - will be looking after 2 boys the odd day over summer hols.... Would like any info on rate to pay - this will be cash in hand -
 
depends on the ages of the children i guess. younger children = more care etc
 
they are 7 & 6 - they would have their breakfast eaten, lunch would be prepared for her, and I would be there to give them dinner in evening... no housework at all -
 
well you are looking at an 8 hour day and minding 2 young children. offset that with the fact that the girl lives next door etc. I would still be saying about 70 a day seems fair.
 
70 a day in cash? Bloody hell thats good money for a 16 year old. I would have thought 20-30 at the most.

Back when I was 16 I was getting 20 euro a day (which was a lot) for a full days work on a farm.
 
€70 is too much. You wouldn't get that now at age 18 and working in a restaurant/shop for 8 hours. The min wage over 18 with 2 years of work experience is €8.65 which would come to €69.20 for the day. €6.02 is the min wage per hour for her age which is €48.16 for the day. Depends on how you see it yourself, do you want to make sure it is always worth her while so you have her available when you need her for example. I would probably give her €45 - €50 max.
 
would you pay a bona fide childminder 30 a day?? you are entrusting your children to this person, if they are not to be judged on a similar standard to a childminder then dont expect a similar level of care!
its a personal thing at the end of the day but for me id be giving her 70.
 
But a 16 year old is not a professional childminder (is there such a thing?).

Do you feel your children get a better level of care by paying a 16 year old 70 per day rather than 30 per day?
 
I know one childminder - who minds in her own home - who charges 160 per week, mid 40's has all her childcare courses done and is registered to mind with revenue. That is 32 per day and she is qualified and experienced. I would say about 30 at the most.
It might be an idea to ask the person what they would expect to be paid. Sometimes it depends on the area - some kids who have everything and come from wealthier households expect more. ( I see the difference in two of my nieces when they babysit - one is happy with 10 euro the other wouldn't for less than 50).
 
maxol said:
... its a personal thing at the end of the day but for me id be giving her 70.
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So hopefully then you'll also register as an employer and have the appropriate levels of employer's and public liability insurance on your premises as well as complying with health & safety and other legislative requirements.

No connection just FYI - [broken link removed]
 
jaybird we're talking about a 6 and 7 year old here, not babies. It's not like they need much minding other than making sure they don't get up to too much mischief! And we're not talking about full time either, the op said it would be the odd day here and there. What would you expect to receive as a 16 year old for something like this? As others have said €70 would be more than the minimum wage for Gods sake! Have we totally lost the run of ourselves if our teenagers are looking for more than the minimum wage to effectively make sure two children don't wreck the house? There used to be a time when this would be considered a chance to earn a bit of pocket money!
 
I look after my sister's 3 children (8 & 12 years) 2 days a week. She pays me €40 per day as that's what she pays her regular childminder.

That includes their lunch & snacks plus trips to the beach or picnics etc depending on weather.

I am not a registered childminder nor am I 16 years old anymore.
 
If you had 8-10 days a month over the summer holidays you'd save nearly 1000 euro. At 16 that is a lot of money, at any age it is!
 
I have 2 toddlers who attend a creche 2 days a week.
My wife works parttime and is at home with them the rest of the week.
However, from time to time we are lucky enough that both grannies look after them.
I believe both grannies are unqualified (no certs or anything), better book them in for training straight away.

There are many variables here and the best way to deal with it is ask the individual what they would be expecting for the day and add a few quid to it if you are happy with the figure.
That's the way I'd approach it anyway.

Note: I'd have no issue with a 16 year old looking after the boys provided I knew and trusted that person.
 
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ok i didnt mean to cause a storm!

i wasn't suggesting that s/he should be registered or anything like it but was basically making the same point as jaybird...30 quid for a days work seems very demeaning and i would not expect anyone to do it. that is my belief. to this end it should also be said that the minium wage is a joke as well!

i am shocked to hear that 'childminders' who provide this service on a regular basis, whether registered or not, do so for such minimal amounts.

and for the record i think its a bit of a generalism to 2 children don't require much minding! i can imagine the argument that would ensue if a working parent tried to tell a stay at home parent that theres not much work to looking after the 2 kids.
 
maxol said:
to this end it should also be said that the minium wage is a joke as well!
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You think it's too low I take it maxol? I dread to think what you would consider fair so! IMO it is too high but that's another argument.

maxol said:
and for the record i think its a bit of a generalism to 2 children don't require much minding! i can imagine the argument that would ensue if a working parent tried to tell a stay at home parent that theres not much work to looking after the 2 kids.
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I think if you were to prefix that with the fact the children are 6 and 7 and that the minding was during daytime hours you wouldn't get too much argument but maybe I'm expecting too much of children!
 
jaybird said:
But a full 8 hour day for 20 euro, entertaining, ensuring the safety and refereeing between a 6 and 7 year old for 20euro? Not likely. I wouldn't trust anyone who would work for that. Thats e2.50 an hour.
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I guess we have different ideas jaybird. You said 20-30, 30 euro would be €3.75 per hour, which I think is fair for a teenager. You mention entertaining them, I can only go back to my own childhood but we were well able to entertain ourselves back then. Ensuring safety, refereeing, yes I believe I already alluded to that. The op is talking about the teenager next door so I would imagine they know her well enough to judge her trustworthiness. As someone else said would it make any difference to her trustworthiness if you paid the same person more? Ultimately it boils down to what the girl would expect but my opinion is that €30 is plenty.
 
Lets get back down to earth on this one. These children are next door to the babysitter. I assume, (correct me if I'm wrong) the babysitter will have access to both houses and possibly have a parent or sibling to help if necessary. She will also have a contact number (maybe two) of Violet Rose. The children will be fed and watered (may need more water!!!) and no housework.

This childminder only has to keep the children happy. Maybe go for a walk or to the park or play in the back garden and it's only for the odd day.

If my daughter was 16 and no summer job, I would be delighted for her to look after a 6 & 7 year old on the odd day for 20 - 30 euro. Good money in my book.

PS my neighbours children are the same age and spend all day every day on the trampoline - yes even in the rain and they love it.
 
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